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Posted: 23 December 2009 at 6:44am

Hi Guys,

This discussion is exciting for me because what I do in my coaching is basically use Explanar to help people learn the movements that Chuck and Alison have identified as the biomechanical fundamentals of the golf swing.

I can't give you any science to back this up, but I firmly believe that people learn quicker by making the movements in Explanar to begin with, rather than hitting balls.

I think there are a number of reasons for this. Perhaps the biggest is that with no ball, people focus on making the movement rather than the result of the shot. The ball is a major distraction for most people when they are learning. Chuck himself said that when he was learning RST he made hundreds if not thousands of swings just with the club and no ball. I think there is discussion of this elsewhere on the forum

That's OK for someone with great focus and dedication who really understands what they are trying to to. But unfortunately, most of us aren't like that. If someone came to me for a lesson, and I had them standing there for 45 minutes swinging without hitting a ball, most of them wouldn't come back. Unfortunately it's just the way people have been conditioned to think about golf instruction.

Where Explanar is brilliant is that you use it to teach the movement, without the distraction of the ball, but in a way people find engaging, fun and interesting. In addition, the Roller is heavy so the student can feel which muscles are working. When you use the correct muscles in the correct way, the Roller feels light and the movement is effortless. If you do it wrong, the roller feels too heavy.

When the student can feel the movement, you can then get then hitting little shots with the golf club, re creating what they felt in the machine. They are still engaged and focused on the movement, rather than thinking 'Great, A Golf Ball! I'm gonna whack it!'

As Luther says, the Explanar is just another tool in the coaches armoury to get the golfer to feel what you want him or her to feel. I happen to think it's the best. I concur with Chuck in that if you don't know how the body works and therefore have no idea what the golf swing is supposed to feel like, Explanar is just another training aid and you can 'do it wrong'.

I firmly believe that what Chuck and Alison are doing is revolutionising the way the golf swing will be taught in the future. Luther's concept of the Biomechanical Swing Plane and the principles that are built into Explanar fit with the science. The Explanar should be seen as a learning tool, not as a methodology or a technique, and the true value of any tool lies with the understanding of the person using it.

I'm not saying you need an Explanar to learn the Rotary swing, and I'm not saying that simply buying an Explanar will give you a perfect Rotary swing. It won't. But as a a learning tool, in my experience, the Explanar will help you learn the fundamental movements that Chuck and Alison have identified in a fast, fun and thorough way.

Best regards,

Sam






]]> Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:44:58 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57645#57645 Success After 2 Weeks : Hi Matt, As the inventor... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57624#57624 Author: PlaneLuther
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Posted: 22 December 2009 at 12:26pm

 
  Hi Matt,
 
  As the inventor of Explanar I'm always delighted when people use and discuss it   ; most of my learning curve over the last 10 years of development has come from colleagues questions and constructive criticism.
 
Can I make a couple of points?
 
  1.   The primary reason for building Explanar was to help golfers coil and rotate as effectively as possible.
  2. The U.S. military acquired 35 Explanars because they found it to be an ideal re-habilitator of the torso's core rotational motor skill for young soldiers who have lost both legs in combat. Explanar is in use at US Military Re-hab Hospitals across the States.
  3. Physio therapists will state that for a patient recovering from a stroke it is hard enough to ask them to touch their right foot with their right hand. It is far more difficult to touch their left foot with the right hand because the co-ordination required for that motor skill is far greater. In my experience, the ignition of the backswing rotation is the hardest thing to teach or learn, that's why I developed Explanar in the first place. I can refer you to eminent professors of human kineisiology that can attest how effective Explanar is in teaching that motor skill and incredibly effective in re-writing long established faults of poor rotation.
  4. I believe that the Explanar is so adaptable, that it can be used by all methods of coaching, the diversity of top coaches that freely endorse Explanar is proof of that. As a great fan of the Rotary methodology, I believe it to be extremely close to the biomechanical needs of Rotary teachers and players, when adjusted accordingly.
  5. Jim Hardy's book, explaining One Plane and Two Plane swings believes that Explanar can be adjusted to promote either technique. Sam Jarman, my good freind and colleague, is a massive endorser of the Rotary Swing and finds Explanar to be totally compatible with its principles.
  6. I do take your point that the arms and club can be on plane whilst the body was incorrect. However, I think that might only happen if the coach was ignorant of bio-mechanical principles.
  7. Finally, Explanar is a very powerfull medicine; it needs correct dosage and application. Even good medicine can be bad for you if incorrectly administered!
     I hope you find this of interest; do, please come back to me because I am always keen to adapt and learn if their are any ways I might be able to adapt Explanar to assist and accelerate the teaching process.
 
Kind regards,
 
Luther Blacklock.
]]> Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:26:32 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57624#57624 Success After 2 Weeks : Explanar is another aid that teaches... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57606#57606 Author: Chuck Quinton
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Posted: 21 December 2009 at 10:59am

Explanar is another aid that teaches the tail to wag the dog. They're great guys and I'm friends with Tony, the CEO, but I can't recommend the aid. They've tried to get me to use it for years, I even went to Tony's house and tried it out. For a golfer with no idea what a swing plane is, it's good for eductating them, but you can swing the weighted club perfectly on plane and never once learn to move from the right muscles.]]> Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:59:00 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57606#57606 Success After 2 Weeks : Spuddy09 You must be a pretty... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57601#57601 Author: BeetleJuice
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Posted: 21 December 2009 at 12:21am

Spuddy09
 
 
You must be a pretty good bloke too! Living in Toowoomba! 
 
We'll have to hook up for a game.
 
 
Craig
]]> Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:21:41 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57601#57601 Success After 2 Weeks : Well played Craig! What part... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57599#57599 Author: spuddy09
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 9:42pm

Well played Craig!
 
What part of Australia are you living ?
 
I'm in Toowoomba, outside of Brisbane!!
]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:42:33 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57599#57599 Success After 2 Weeks : Training aids, IMO the problem... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57594#57594 Author: Matt1960
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 5:51pm

Training aids,
IMO the problem with most training aids are that they tend to teach arm or hand positions. They generally do not teach correct body motion.
It is quite possible with the Explanar to get your arms perfectly on its plane, but with a body position and motion that is completely away from what we want to achieve.
Get the body moving correctly and then you will not have to worry about plane, it will take care of itself.
 
Matt
]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:51:27 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57594#57594 Success After 2 Weeks : Thanks guys for the encouragement! Chuck... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57593#57593 Author: BeetleJuice
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 5:36pm

Thanks guys for the encouragement!
 
Chuck I think the way you have described the movements particularly steps 1&2 really clicked with me.
 
It became abundantly clear that I've been pushing with the left and pushing all the way to the top my long & across swing.
 
Ive been chasing a way to control my overswinging and was getting desperate to the stage of purchasing the Explanar!
 
Incidentally, what do you think of the explanar? Does ijt get a person into the correct positions?
 
So I am looking forward to further engraining the Rotary Swing.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Craig
 
 
 
]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:36:50 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57593#57593 Success After 2 Weeks : Way to go Craig, that's awesome!... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57589#57589 Author: Chuck Quinton
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 12:50pm

Way to go Craig, that's awesome!]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:50:00 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57589#57589 Success After 2 Weeks : Awesome Craig. Keep up the great... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57586#57586 Author: Al Consoli
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 10:21am

Awesome Craig .  Keep up the great work!  Welcome to the website.  ]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:21:46 +0000 http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57586#57586 Success After 2 Weeks : Hi Chuck/Al I must say that... http://www.golfinstructionworld.com/golf-instruction-forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6783&PID=57585#57585 Author: BeetleJuice
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Posted: 20 December 2009 at 3:06am

Hi Chuck/Al
 
I must say that I'm delighted with the results of being a subscriber to your great Website  for only 2weeks.
 
I've shot rounds of 4 over,2over and 1 under in the 2weeks since working with your fundamentals. My attitude on the course has changed as I've been really frustrated with the lack of consistancy and lack of understanding of why my swing felt so bad or indifferent each time I stood on the 1st tee.
 
For the past year I've been swinging between a 4 & 5 H/cap and have been applying band aid solutions after receiving some lessons. Usually I just ended up flinging my hands through the shot as a make up move!(Probably from my squash playing days) 
 
After playing 18 holes this way in 36deg C heat I was usuall mentally and phyically tired, but over the past 2 weeks, 18 holes feels easy, relaxing and fun!
 
I reallly enjoy the drills and I perform a couple of those as a preshot routine and now when I have a bad swing, I just keep thinking about the drills and just know that I haven't "LOST MY SWING!"
 
Finally I can now work at consistancy using your funamentals and really get back to enjoying the great game of golf!
 
 
Regards
 
 
Craig
 
 
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