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    Posted: 26 May 2008 at 8:47pm
I have noticed that throughout golf history, some of the longer drivers of the golf ball are/were two planers.  Nicklaus, Davis Love III, JB Holmes, Fred Couples, Mike Austin.
 
I went to the range yesterday and worked on some 2-plane, getting the club more vertical, more erect address position and a more armsy swing.  Have read several times recently  some disparaging comments about body driven swings and that the arms can move faster than the torso.  I took the club back more up and from the top, I started the downswing by throwing the back arm under, out and up.  Dang, I was killing the ball.  I usually hit my 8-iron about 150 and I was peppering a green 160 yards away and flew several over on the fly.  I was hitting a 143 yard green with my PW.  Could just launch the ball high.
 
Off to the course.  ON the third hole I finally, for the first time drove the green, about 287 yards to carry the water and I drove it into the middle of the green.  OoooLaaaLaaa, I like it.  Just spanked it around for the 11 holes I played.
 
Back on the range today and more work on getting the arms moving faster down to the ball.  It is normally pretty cool to drive balls on the slope of the hill at the end of the range and some will roll over the hill.  Today I flying the ball over the hill with this more vertical two plane swing.  Gotta get out the radar unit over the next few days to check the CHS.
 
This was a pretty cool experiment.
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Hayes, it would be interested to see the two swings of your side by side on video, do you have any? It's very difficult for most to get their arms above their shoulders if that's not the way they naturally swing, even though they may feel very steep. Freeing up the release of the arms is a good thing for speed and they should be allowed to be released or actively released for the Hitter with maximum speed in either pattern.
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don't have any video.  But, I did practice taking swings standing 12" from a wall and taking the club more up.  Wow.  I did that drill 20 years ago.
You are correct.  It takes some focus to get the hands up high again. 
All I need now are some orange Top-flite balls.
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Orange balls, huh. I made my first birdie in my life with an orange Top Flite that was probably 10 years old when I got it! Maybe I should go back to them.....

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Ahhhh! Top Rocks! Talk about indestructable! Sure would rattle your teeth though on an off center hit with the blades!
 
2 plane swing can be very powerful due the karate chop type of motion. But even this powerful arm swing must be combined with and timed to a rotary motion of the body in order to make it work. And therein lies the rub. Timing!
 
hayes,
The throwing motion from the top is something that I still use in practice in order to help get everything in sync. Works with any type swing really. I find that often I fall into the habit of getting too around going back and don't have enough up in the backswing and I get stuck and hit big pushes to the right because I'm swing way too flat.
 
Hmmmm...... Seem to recall that Sam Snead and some guy named Hogan did O.K. with a largely rotarty type swing. But even there, no much passive arms though!
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Magic,
 
I used to play right through the cold NJ winters and on more than one occasion, with those nice old Wilson blades I thinned a rock ball and rattled my teeth!
 
Yesterday, I was trying to engrain the throwing motion, so I grabbed an 8-iron and just made one arm swings, throwing it down with the back arm.  I could hit it about 120 yards with one arm.  Kind of forget how much motion there is in a classic two-lane swing with the pivot and lateral slide.  Real smooth.
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