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    Posted: 22 January 2007 at 10:41am
     I started out 15 years ago with a two plane swing.  Along comes Natural Golf in 1995, just had to try it.  I then found out that there is all kinds of single axis swings.  I tried most of them.  Jim Hardy came out with his book "The Plane Truth".  I studied it for months on the one plane swing.  I then found this site, bought the DVD's and practiced hard.  I have come to the conclusion that I am not a natural one plane swinger.  I now have come full circle and am back to a two plane golf swing!  I am very happy with my decision.  No more research on the INTERNET about golf swings, just go with what I can do naturally.  With a two plane swing, my head is not filled with swing thoughts, the swing just happens.  With the one plane swing, I just don't have the athletic ability  to keep turning left through the down swing.  I pulled and hooked a lot of shots left.  I also have low back and sciatic nerve problems.  Maybe these conditions led to not being able to swing with the  one plane swing.   The  two plane swing being more of a arms swing is way easier for me to perform.  I guess that there is more timing with a two plane swing but it happens naturally with me.  I also do not manipulate my arms and hands during the swing.  My club face stays square to the arc of the entire swing.  I think the one plane swing is great for those that can do it, it just wasn't for me.  Regards, Ted

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 Bravo !!! 

   Not a thing wrong with 2PS . There is no rule that says you HAVE to be a 1P................... Probably 99% of all golfers are hybrids anyway.....but in the end what does it matter ? Find what works for you then enjoy & play golf........

  

 
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1Putt, I have a similar history except I ended up with the One Plane Swing.  Whenever anyone asks my advice on "How to learn Golf," I tell them to first figure out which tendencies they have (1 Plane or 2).  Also, if a teaching professional doesn't know the difference - then find one that does.  This is so important that it should be the first thing a golf teacher does.  Nothing ruins a swing, or frustrates a player more than cross-contamination from the wrong fundamentals.  Glad you found yours.  Hitman    
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I'm like you, Hitman.  I might have developed a two plane swing if I hadn't learned to play back in the 50's straight out of Hogan's book.  I ended up with a one plane backswing and a through-swing built around my interpertation of what Hogan was doing.  I played pretty good that way.  In the 70's, I got away from the through-swing bits but retained the backswing bit.  Lateral leg/hip drive and upper body hang-back were big in those days.  Can you say "reverse C"?  Hardy's book and this website have gotten me back to what I used to do but with a much better understanding of how to blend the backswing and through-swing in a one plane format.  Not that there's anything wrong with a two plane swing.  I agree that a good coach will recognize his students' tendencies and coach to those respective fundamentals.

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Good for you, 1putt.
 
I'm pretty sure I'm a one planer - when I first started, golf seemed simple to me - bend over a little more, and turn the shoulders around the spine.  After going back and forth, I've settled on developing a 1PS.
 
Like has been posted, find your plane and build your swing around it!
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O.K. 1putt! Shhhh! Don't tell anyone on these forums, but I'm really a closet hybrid swinger. I, like One Planer, took up the game of golf in the Hogan era and being from Ft. Worth who else was I going to try to swing like. Well, I ended up with a very one plane backswing and a two plane downswing. Then some well meaning instructor's back in the Nicklaus era, did their best to make my swing on a very upright two plane swing. Much to their's and my chargrin, it didn't take and I wandered around until I discovered Jim Hardy's One Plane swing. However, being a senior citizen and having lost some flexibility, I didn't fit the Hardy model. Ultimately, I found this site and read Chuck's philosphy on the swing, I knew I had found a golf home. Not that I have turned out with a copy of Chuck's fantastic swing, but I have developed a swing that I can consistantly count on and serves me quite well. Isn't that all that matters?

So, I agree with randini, in that who gives a rat's read end that your swing is one plane, two plane, or even ten plane. As long as the ball flight is to your satisfaction and your consistant with the swing and enjoying playing golf and not golf swing, buddy. go right ahead and stick with your two plane swing! I just hope that you will still feel free to join in our discussions and know that your input is valued.

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1Putt, I cannot say that I started out as a TP swinger, because I read both Hogan and Nicklaus.  I was just confused.  What has been most helpful for me is the recognition that the two swings require different mechanics.  At first I tried the OPS and actually had some success.  Played as well as I ever played.  But I also soon realized that I was not going to be able to get my body to turn consistently.  So I came back to the TPS, but with a whole lot of knowledge that has made my TPS better.   One of the things that I have appreciated about this forum so much is that everyone has been so encouraging regardless of the swing one uses (maybe natural golf as the exception)!
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I too have come full circle but with significantly more knowledge.  My 2PS is so much better now that I can sift through the fundamentals.  For me, the 1PS never transitioned well into my short game.  All swings aside, I found I played better golf with a 2 plane style arm swing than a body rotation swing.
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I have been training for a month and a half trying to become a one planer, the sad part is I thought when I went to the range I was swinging OP and hitting the ball the best I have ever hit it with my irons but not so with my driver. I taped my swing the other day and even though I have some things to really groove in my swing I noticed I have more of a natural 2PS. Yesterday I hit my driver the best I hit it in the last 3 months and I was doing a 2PS. Im really confused right now because I really want to become a OPSwinger because Id like to eliminate the timing issue from my swing. I guess Ill still work on an OPS and see if I can get better. 
"Golf is a game of 1/2 and 3/4 swings." CQ
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