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    Posted: 28 May 2010 at 6:55pm
Here's Raj, a pro golfer on the Indian PGA Tour who came over from India to work with me for two days. Raj had a very overactive right side in the downswing, both the right hip and the right arm, leading to big blocks and thin hooks with his very stuck arm position at impact. Working on stabilizing his hips (for him feeling like they stay shut during the downswing and bracing using the left glute while pulling with the left arm) we got him into much better positions in about an hour. Still have work to do but his ball flight, contact and compression improved dramatically.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LFC fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 11:29pm

I was wondering in the picture on the left, the shaft looks like it has released its load early and probably has.

It would fit with Chucks’ swing change explanation.

Raj is a pro so I’m sure his shafts are fit properly.

Chucks’ article about proper shaft fitting:

 

The shaft has obviously released its load.

My question is with high speed cameras would it be correct in assuming if you’re in a solid impact position and the shaft has released its load that the shafts are incorrectly fit for the player?

(Assuming the image quality is good etc.)

 

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I had a lesson with my instructor and this is exactly what we were working on today.  The picture Chuck posted on the left almost looks my impact position.  My right arms what getting stuck behind me and not in front of my right hip.  She then walked me through the impact position and it did feel as if my hips were more square in the downswing or even shut.  However, when looking DTL on video, my left glute had cleared and I was able to release the club much easier.  I started hitting controlled draws with effortless power.  Also, looking at a front on view, my left shoulder, left elbow, left wrist, left knee, and left ankle were all stacked over the top of each other.  Before, my left hip was getting to neutral but my upper body was hanging back just a enough that I wasn't stacked over my left side through impact.  Chuck, what were some of the drills that you had Raj perform?
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We did a lot of mirror work to get him to see where he needed to be at impact and feel which muscles needed to activate to achieve the correct position. Then hit half shots for about 1.5 hours grooving this position.

As for the shaft load, the HD cameras really screw this up because the processors can't keep up with the fast moving shaft, so a lot of this we've learned is actually due to the camera. You need either and SD camera or a very expensive HD camera to keep the shaft from appearing that it's bowing.
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During the down swing, would the correct feeling of the hands be that they take a straight line in front of the ball?  During the analysis of Adrian's swing (impact series- coming over the top), Chuck had mentioned that the hands should feel that they are driving down toward a point about a foot in front of the ball.  Would this be the RST or the regular rotary swing impact position/ feeling?
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If the camera has a rolling shutter (nothing to do with shutter speed) the shaft can have this bend appearance, it isnt actually doing as it looks
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some of the recent videos and this sequence point to an on going problem I have which is a right elbow that is "draggy" through impact, really slightly behind all the way in the downswing.

I've been told that I have pretty open shoulders and chest at impact and seen it on video.   So the idea is to keep the belt buckle pointed behind or at the ball on the downswing, not feel like a big drive, and maybe that right elbow won't drop behind me?

any other suggestions?   It's been part of my swing for years and even with a big improvement in my backswing, I doubt if I've ever gotten it right


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here's a recent swing from face on
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