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    Posted: 31 March 2008 at 5:41pm
I lost my Matchplay comp last weekend for two reasons......... poor chipping and putting.
I've been concentrating soo much on my long game that I've disregarded my shortgame. Even normally straight forward pitch shots from inside 100yds I found myself THINNING through the green.
What compounded this was the fact that my Driving was the best it has ever been!!!
I missed one fairway all round and drove 2 par 4 greens.
I feel like snapping my 60* lob wedge. I'm seriously considering leaving it out of the bag till Summer.
Can someone please explain HOW to play a chip shot off a s*&úty lie such as hard compact soil without either chilli dipping or thinning the ball??
I even double hit one attempted lob wedge from around the green.
Back to basics.......I haven't got the time to waste practicing the wrong things in this game, I must work on my short game!!!
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Read my "tournament" thread for a recap of poor wedge play.
 
I am normally a great wedge player and chipper.  I just charged it off as being one of those days.
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Can someone please explain HOW to play a chip shot off a s*&úty lie such as hard compact soil without either chilli dipping or thinning the ball??

I'm not immune to a bad day up close either, Spuddy and Greg.  It gets to confidence usually.  If I'm on greens I can't figure out (like the home course right now has punched/sanded greens) I'll tend to chip and putt poorly.

An old pro told me once "Hard dirt needs soft hands."  Play it back, count on more run, and soften your grip right before you pull the club back.  I took a 1 X 8 pine board and hit it with a ball-peen hammer to make shallow dimple.  After putting a ball in the dimple and chipping it about 20 times, hard dirt feels like cheating. 

The other thing to check, Spuddy, is how much bounce is in that 60*.  I've got one with 3* of bounce that I keep around for dry weather.  If you're hitting that bald lie with 10 or 12* of bounce it's going to take a safe-cracker's touch. 
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I think it must be my technique ray. My 60 gegree has a 6* bounce so should be OK from compact soil. I have just put it down to one of those days. The thing is, I know the guy who beat me really well and I gave him 3 shots. He had a career round and I still felt like if my short game would have been on, I'd have won. I'm annoyed at those chip and run shots though. Also, I short side myself 3 times and couldn't loft the ball enough to stop it near the hole with the lob wedge.

All in all a very frustrating round. Things can only get better!!!!

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Neil,

My golf is confined to a bit of chipping in the field right now so I've been practicing these shots. One thing I noticed I was doing when I wasn't making good contact was moving too much.

Check your head. Be sure it's dead still through the shot and you're extending your left arm properly on the way back to establish a decent arc.
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Biceps on the outside of the chest and Maintain the Arm Triangle throughout the pitching/chipping/putting stroke.  Focusing on maintaining the arm triangle has helped me trememdously.
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Thanks Hayes, I'll use that as a swing thought when I play 18 tomorrow.
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If you get a chance, read Stan Utley's Short Game Book.  I found it very helpful and it is very much in keeping with rotary swing thoughts.
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I have it and I've read it. It is the complete opposite of everything I've done in the short game and I don't want to radically change at this stage of the season. I will stick to what I know and try to improve that.
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Originally posted by spuddy09 spuddy09 wrote:


Can someone please explain HOW to play a chip shot off a s*&úty lie such as hard compact soil without either chilli dipping or thinning the ball??


Practice hitting them at the range off dirt spots. Focus on keeping the weight on the left side, ball back in your stance(wherever it works for you), and the hands in front of the clubhead. You'll feel like you are practically stabbing the club into the ground but you'll follow through hitting the ball first.

That's how I practice those shots.
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