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    Posted: 22 July 2008 at 8:16am
Last night I spent some time working on the short game with a good friend.  During the session he explained the short game "system" used by Seve Ballesteros, as explained at a clininc by his instructor.  Really cool stuff.
 
First he would walk off the yardage from his ball to 1 stride onto the green.  Then he would walk off the distance from that point to the flag.  He would then divide the 2nd distance by the 1st distance.  Example.  If the first distance were 5 strides and the second distance were 16 strides you would divide 16 by 5 and get 3.something.
 
NOw understand that your clubs are numbered: 1 is the SW, 2 is PW, 3 is 9 iron, 4 is the 8 iron and so on.  In the above example we came up with a number close to 3, so for this shot we would use the 9 iron. 
 
For all short game shots, the club is taken back to the 7 o'clock position and the ball should land the aforementioned 1 stride onto the green. 
 
We practiced this system, with varying shots for about 1/2 hour and the consistency is astounding.  Walk it off to determine the club to be selected and trust the system.  It eliminates all the guess work as to trajectory, landing area, etc.  I was just blown away.
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Interesting stuff hayes...if there were 10 paces to the point 1 yard on the green and 5 to the flag from there, i.e. 0.5, then I guess that's where the LW comes in?
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Where does the GW fit in?  1.5?

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You guys are on your own from here. 
 
Yes, the LW does figure into the equation for touch shots.
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It's personal touch that governs your ratios.
I've been using this system on my chipping for a few years after idolising Seve's short game all my golfing life, and reading countless books on the guy.
Depending on the greens you practice on, and your own chipping stroke and impact position, club selection will vary.
Personally, my GW gives me exactly the same roll:carry ratio.
My SW is 6:9; my LW is 1:2. My PW is 9:6.
Iuse this system down to my 7I which gives me 3:1 roll to carry ratio around the greens.
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Originally posted by spuddy09 spuddy09 wrote:

It's personal touch that governs your ratios.
I've been using this system on my chipping for a few years after idolising Seve's short game all my golfing life, and reading countless books on the guy.
Depending on the greens you practice on, and your own chipping stroke and impact position, club selection will vary.
Personally, my GW gives me exactly the same roll:carry ratio.
My SW is 6:9; my LW is 1:2. My PW is 9:6.
Iuse this system down to my 7I which gives me 3:1 roll to carry ratio around the greens.
 
Help me understand:  If you chip with your SW, you will roll 2 yards for every 3 it travels in the air (or 6:9)? LW is 1 yard for every 2 it carries?  I know that this will sound dense, but I just want to be clear.
 
I spent a considerable amount of time on Sunday working on Chip shots and opening the face on the chip to see what happens.
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Are you using the same 7 o'clock swing with each club or are you just determining the club and then attempting to land the ball 1 stride onto the green?
 
I was practicing this today and if the ratios work out correctly it is amazingly accurate. I holed a bunch of chips using the same 7 o'clock swing for each club. However, if you are using the same swing it doesn't quite work out. If I'm 2 paces off the green and then 8 more to the hole I would choose an 8 iron. Thats' way too much club with a 7 o'clock swing. So, I'm a bit confused.
 
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