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Chuck . go try the J33 R bridgestone :p.. one of the lowest spin head ever.
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Of course it's the equipment and not the swing.
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It's never the bow and arrow....it's the Indian!
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Chuck, welcome to the lovely world of Ping.  I absolutely love my G2 driver and wouldn't trade it for anything (except maybe a new G5).

Failure is the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently. - Henry Ford
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I can't deny the results, that's for certain.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snwbord24 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2006 at 8:03pm

It really seems to be that people either love ping or hate them.  I am definately on the love side, but they're all I've used in the short 6 years I've been attempting to play this game.

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I play with a guy who hits the ball very well with woods and irons.  He feels intimidated playing with some of the better players because he does not drive the ball as far.  His tee shots stink; high and ballooning, with little distance.  Recently, after playing a par-3, I questioned how far he hits his 7-iron.  I pointed out that he hits his 7-iron, as well as all his irons,  as far as several other guys, but his tee shots are 30-40 yard shorter shorter than them.  I suggested that he get the shaft in his driver checked because it is a manufacturers stock $15 shaft, and other guys are playing custom installed shafts.  This guy really hits it solid with the driver and it goes nowhere.

Yesterday, I relayed this conversation to my buddy, and he said that he has had the very same conversation with another guy we play with, hitting an OEM $400 driver with a stock shaft that goes nowhere.   This guy also hits his irons very well with the same distance as guys outdriving him by 30 yards. 

I am reminded of a chart I read this morning for UST listing all of the winners, top 5's and top 10's achieved by pros using their shafts.  HOw many players on the PGA, LPGA, Champions or Nationwide Tours are using the OEM stock shafts?  I am going out on a limb here, but I will confidently predict the answer to my question is......ZERO.  There is a reason.

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I have been told that if you buy a "brand name" driver (for ex. Taylor Made, Mizuno, etc.) that they have their shafts fitted for that particualr clubhead at the factory and that if you install another shaft it screws up kick point, balnace, etc, etc. that was fitted at the factory.

Is that bovine manure or truth?

I can't see buying a "generic" knock off driver just to get the shaft I want.

Thanks for the info, in advance, from some of you who know more about club building and shafts than I.

Doug.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bottomsup Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:55pm
hayes: Ever read "The Search for the Perfect Swing"? If not, maybe you should give it a look through. They did an experiment where people drove the ball as far with a HINGED SHAFT as with a solid shaft. Sort of dispels the notion of driving it 30-40 yds further with a different shaft. Anyway, the theory(that they were proving) is that the clubhead is like a ballistic device that once started down can't be altered in any way shape or form. You're sort of hanging on for dear life at that point. The pros generally modify their shafts for stiffness, torque or flex, etc. This does effect the opening or closing of the clubhead at impact. Perhaps your friend needs to try a different LOFT driver as that would explain ballooning to a great degree.
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dougw,

Read your statement about the OEM's and their matched shafts.  If you want a shaft other than the "stock shaft" you can order it for a nice little $100-200 upcharge.  You buy a stock TM R7 with a stock shaft and Sergio Garcia and Retief Goosen get them custom made with their preferred shaft.  I know 3 guys with R7's; one with a Aldila NV shaft, one with a Fuji Speeder and the other with a UST, Harmon HTD shaft.

You don't need to by "clones."  SMT, Bang, PureFit, Infinity, KZG and Wishon, Golfsmith are all OEM's like TaylorMade and Titleist with their own head designs.  They use the same titanium and are made at the same foundries.  There are only 9 foundries in the whole world who make heads.  TaylorMade and Cleveland don't make their heads, they design them and and have them made at the same foundries as KZG, Wishon, SMT and Bang.  TM and Cleveland just spend millions $$$$$ more on brainwashing, I mean advertising.

 I just got a new custom made driver, a PureFit 450 DC Tour with a UST Proforce V2 shaft for $219.  IN MY HUMBLE OPINION a far superior driver to a $400 R7 off the shelf with a stock shaft. 

BROTHERS, I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY YOU GOING TO A CLUBMAKER AND GETTING A CUSTOM MADE DRIVER THAT FITS YOU.

My wife hates it when I say this, but I honestly believe that the only thing more wasteful than paying a hooker $200 for an hour, is paying $400 for a name brand driver off the shelf.

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