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    Posted: 19 July 2006 at 10:18pm

Hi Group:

I have Utley's book and both type of putters.   On my carpet at home, I continually either hit left about three or four inches at ten feet.  Or I see my arms twist and i hit right of the cup.

I have some success, if I look at the ball and not moving the head (in fact it feels like I move the head back after the stroke).

I'm trying to continue using the Pelz method.  Chucks tape on putting was absolutely no help.  

I have also tried the long putter, also no help.

BTW, thanks group especially uno, my irons are going well.

You can see, I'm lost and frustrated   

Joe

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2006 at 10:24pm

Probably because your eyes aren't over the ball. Get your putter, and see if your eyes are over the ball, by hanging it stright down from your eyes. In your case, your eyes are probably inside the ball. You want your eyes directly over the ball, or if you miss, slightly beyond the ball. Tell me how it goes.

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Do you have offsets in your putter?

Try a putter with 1 shaft offsets.
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Micah makes a good suggestion, jy.  Ideally, your eyes should be  directly over the ball and parallel to the target line.  That's the first thing to check.  As Michah said, set up over the ball and then lift your putter without moving and put the end of the shaft between your eyes.  Sight down the shaft to see if your eyes are over the ball.  I disagree with Michah's statement that it's better to err with your eyes outside the ball.  Most instructors would say to err to the inside of the ball with your eyes, if you must err at all. 

Grip the putter lightly and move the blade by moving the triangle formed by your arms and chest.  Keep your head and body still as you make the stroke.  Don't consciously open and close the blade or do anything with your hands.  Especially don't let your left wrist fold or collapse at impact.  Keep it moving along the path.  Make the whole motion smooth and unhurried.  Just let the putter swing naturally back and through with a bit more acceleration on the through stroke.

Glad to hear you're hitting your irons well. 

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A good way to practice at home is to take a CD that you don't need, and put it shiney side up on the floor.  Then place a golf ball on top of it in the center hole and take your stance over it with a putter.  When you see your eyes reflected in the CD you know your eyes are directly over the ball.
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The only reason I said to err with his eyes outside of the ball, is because he's pushing putts. If his eye's are beyond the ball, at least he won't push putts. I'd rather pull putts then push putts, because I use to have the same problem as jmw. I don't know. Just get them over the ball, then we don't have to worry about erring.

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Sounds like you're either mis-aimed with your body, your eyes are outside the line or not aligned down the target line properly, or you're exagerating an arc stroke with your hands or arms. Try this: Purchase an EyeLine putting trainer with the Pro or longer inclined rail; it has a neat, lined, mirror for training. You can also use a CD with a scribed line through the center but it's kinda fuzzy. Now....

1. Find your dominate eye.
2. At address, position your "gazing" straight out of your skull (Like staring blankly out at the horizon standing on a beach) dominate eye directly over the very back of the ball. If you're right eye dominate the ball may have been repoeitioned back in your stance. When using a CD just put a ball in the middle as you set up.
3. Align both eyes over the line of the putt with your forehead and chin as level as possible. i.e. Chin and forehead as close to the same horizontal plane as possible. You may feel as if your chin is stuck into your chest and/or have to bend over farther at the waist or even other adjustments to do this.
4. Use a square or very slightly open stance
5. Shorten your putter so that your hands are hanging beneath your shoulders and adjust the lie so the blade is perfectly soled with the shaft in line with your forearms
6. Do not raise your head to look at your target; instead rotate your head so that you eyes track directly down the intended line
6. Keep you r body as absolutely still as possible during the stroke and do not move your head or eyes by themselves until long after the ball is well on its way

It may take several to numerous practice sessions before the new positions will feel comfortable and/or natural but the results are well worth it.

All of this has to do with the way the human brain targets objects and if you observe Mickelson, Palmer, Player, Locke, Hogan, and Woods when he's on, they're all in, or very, very, close, to these positions. In fact you can watch about any tournament on television and most of the time immediately spot the better putters from these traits. The one exception is Crenshaw who does a couple of unique things. Hope this helps. Hope this helps.

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2006 at 8:39pm

To me it sounds like you maybe take the putter to much on the inside. 

I had that problem myself and either pushed the ball right or "flipped" over to pull it left.  I also hit to much down and put hook spin on it.  Typically I learned to pull my putts (flipped the face) and without knowing I aimed right, but the shorter putts often went left.

My pro made me aware of my impact and I learned to take it straighter back to get square to the ball, hit more up on the ball and lost my hook spin.  Well I make more putts and they rolled 40% longer...

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