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Ricky,

You have to absolutely love putting if you are going to get anywhere.  Full.  Stop.

If two hours putting practice is boring you, change your practice. 

Is the county schools the one where you play in teams of three to qualify for the  finals somewhere near Birmingham?  It was at the Forest of Arden in 'my day'.  We finished 7th one year.  My personal best was 4th (but was probably 4th from last the first time I played the course: pretty tough).

 



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Originally posted by RickyHarris RickyHarris wrote:

This past 2 weeks I have been working hard on my putting! I HAVE to! Otherwise when im older I wont be able to compete on Pro Tours!

Ive been doing 2 hours everyday on the putting green! ITS SO BORING THOUGH! But I have to do it!



 Be careful Ricky. Putting is the most fickle of any stroke. Sometimes you can work on it so much that it becomes too mechanical and you lose all sense of feel. Look no further than Veejay or Sergio for examples.
  Personally i practice my putting about 3 times a week in my basement, on a shitty putting green. It helps me keep my stroke, but doesnt' let me get too precise. I'm a pretty good putter.


The two best putters and chippers I know never practice putting and chipping.  It's the most amazing thing.  I mean, these two guys are world class around and on the greens.  They just have a special knack.  It must be psychokinesis or something.  They see it.  They hit it.  It goes in.  I asked one of them how he putts so well when I never see him practicing on the putting green.  He replied, "I don't want to look at a lot of putts than don't go in."   I thought that was very profound. 

 
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That's the basis of the drill where you have to hole nine in a row, starting with three from three feet and move back to six and nine footers: you get used to seeing three foot putts darting into the hole until it becomes pretty much second nature.

(I would say 'natural' but this tends to imply 'stupid' to me.)

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My putting was good until I went to the left hand low! That messed my stroke up!

I have a very good short game though! I remember I didnt hit 1 green in the first 14 holes in captains day and I was -2 after 14 holes! Then I had an 8 on the 16thHAHAHAHAHAHA wernt funny at the time

I dont really need to practice chipping or pitching much because I have good natural feel and can play all kinds of shots but putting I do struggle!

When I practice it on my own its boring, when i practice it with somebody else its fun because I have putting competitions with my mates. In the summe rlast year we did a 400 hole putting competition everyday HAHA man what losers! Maybe thats why my short game was so good last summer Those days will come again soon when my mates can get down to play more often in the summer holidays.

No monkeyboy this one is just singles! 1st round is at www.lwgc.co.uk then you have to make the cut to get into the second round! I should make the cut pretty easy last year I made the cut and shot +9!!!!!!!!!! But the weather was so so bad that day! Im in the 1st group off the 3 best players me and 2 welsh boys who only in the welsh team because there grandad is the welsh team development office man! I think I have a very very good chance! The the 6best players after the 2nd round get to represent the county in the Welsh Inter Counties Championship!

I think the one your on about is the british heart foundation I not sure!

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can I ask why you have to love putting to get anywhere?

I do like putting on the course its just practicing on my own bores me abit because the is no pressure!



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Originally posted by One Planer One Planer wrote:

Originally posted by Skully Skully wrote:

Originally posted by RickyHarris RickyHarris wrote:

This past 2 weeks I have been working hard on my putting! I HAVE to! Otherwise when im older I wont be able to compete on Pro Tours!

Ive been doing 2 hours everyday on the putting green! ITS SO BORING THOUGH! But I have to do it!



 Be careful Ricky. Putting is the most fickle of any stroke. Sometimes you can work on it so much that it becomes too mechanical and you lose all sense of feel. Look no further than Veejay or Sergio for examples.
  Personally i practice my putting about 3 times a week in my basement, on a shitty putting green. It helps me keep my stroke, but doesnt' let me get too precise. I'm a pretty good putter.


The two best putters and chippers I know never practice putting and chipping.  It's the most amazing thing.  I mean, these two guys are world class around and on the greens.  They just have a special knack.  It must be psychokinesis or something.  They see it.  They hit it.  It goes in.  I asked one of them how he putts so well when I never see him practicing on the putting green.  He replied, "I don't want to look at a lot of putts than don't go in."   I thought that was very profound. 

 

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I play with a guy who has won 5 Club Championships and this guy is a whoot with some of the funny stuff he comes up with, just out of the blue.  We are standing on a tee box in the middle of a round last year and he says "Why do so many golfers practice 3 foot putts?  Think about it, an 80 yr. old woman can putt the ball 3 feet."  He felt the same as your friend.  Why practice missing putts.  The pros only make something like 50% of 6 footers.  He said before a round we should stroke a few 20 and 30 footers and go play.

Here is my take and experience on long practice putting sessions.  You can get all the feel you want, but if you have some flaw in your setup, or stroke, all you are doing is engraining good feel with a flawed putting stroke.  Last year I was a good putter, rarely 3 jacking.  But I didn't make a lot of putts and had a tendency to miss putts on the left side of the hole.  I read Dave Pelz's Putting Bible and learned that a tendency to miss putts left of the hole is most likely caused by a misalignment of the forearms at address.  If the forearm farthest away from the hole is out past the front forearm, there will be a tendency to miss left.  I worked on correcting my alignment of shoulders, feet, hips and forearms and started to make more putts than ever and stopped missing on the left side.  Without correcting the flaw in my setup, I could have practiced for an hour everyday and for an hour everyday I would still have a tendency to miss left.

By the way, I took my friends advice and stopped doing a lot of putting practice and noticed that the effect of that is a lessening of the importance of 3 foot putts.  What message do we sent our brain if we roll 100 of those 3 footers.  "Hey dude, these must be tough because you sure practice them a lot."

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Originally posted by RickyHarris RickyHarris wrote:

can I ask why you have to love putting to get anywhere?

I do like putting on the course its just practicing on my own bores me abit because the is no pressure!

Just like you've said above, a 400 hole putting match every now and then is fun and there is pressure.  When you've had a few three foot putts on the practice green for a fiver, the one on the last for the 68 will be easy. 

Even on your own, you can add some pressure into your putting, like Monty or Tiger holing stupid amounts of consecutive 2 or 3 footers.  Should be like falling out of a tree, but I bet you'd be nervous over the 99th....

I do nine in a row, three each from three, six and nine feet.  That last one is a dooooozy.

Yeah, it was the Golf Foundation one I used to play in.  Lots of fun that.  Lots of kids taking themselves too seriously mind you...

 

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I cant wait to play in this one competition! You can qualify for the Wales Coca Cola Junior Open held at celtic manor the same week as the welsh open on the european tour!!!!!!!! You have a barbecue with all the pros  like Nick Faldo !!

And the qualifying round is at my home club WOOOHOOO! Well one of the qualifying rounds

I played in the British heart foundation one, well the qualifying round! My team did pretty bad I think im playing in that this year too. I think the final is at the belfry these days!

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You're absoultely right, Hayes.  It doesn't do any good to practice putting unless your fundamentals are right.  Otherwise, you're just grooving a bad move.  Same goes for hitting balls.  I have a tendency to line up to the right of the target when I practice if I don't pay attention to alignment on every shot.

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I guess it is said that you should love putting because somewhere around 40% of all your strokes are going to be putts. I reckon someone who loves putting will make a few more than someone who hates it.   My favorite putting drill (if you call it a drill) is to pick a flat, straight putt that is two putter lengths (6 feet approximately) and make 12 in a row.  After 12 I will keep going to see how many I can make.  The best I have ever done is 30 in a row.  This is the only putting practice I do other than roll a few long ones across the green right before playing just to get a feel for the speed.

On a side note, Harvey Penick said a long time ago "Show me someone who hits it two feet from the hole all day and I'll show you a good putter.  

I believed him when I read that and became a great chipper.



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