Trying a rotary hit

Hi. So much beautiful about your swing. Athletic, balanced, great tempo. I am new to this forum and commented on the You tube page which I cannot figure out how to transfer to here as it won't let me copy. In second 9 of your front view, it appears that your right wrist is extended, as with the finish of a 'throwing' motion, and your left wrist is 'cupped' in stead of 'rolled over'. I think that the right wrist, once it is set at the top of the BS should maintain (mostly) it's set through impact as with a 'top spin forehand' in tennis, where (ideally) you don't move your arm so much as you rotate your body and the right wrist (as well as the left) rolls over while maintaining its set. The left wrist, also using the body rotation as a primary power source, feels "bowed" as Hogan put it, at impact and also 'rolls over' afterward. This gives the 'compression' feel against the ground.

chuck talks about the first move down is pushing down on the left heel, which is true hitter or swinger. This one thing is tranformative. If you are losing club head/ball speed, you are losing lag. Period. In the video where Chuck talks about "throwing the ball", the main point is keeping your shoulders closed (mostly) while the weight you have shifted onto your left side by pushing down on the left heel as a trigger allows the hips to clear while the shoulders are still slightly closed to the ball. The result is true lag.

Hi Dr Thumper. You are right about losing lag by "casting" which happens early in the downswing and is the result of initiating the DS with the shoulders/upper body/arms. This, by definition, is not rotating from the core. In many other places, indeed it is near if not at the heart of the rotary swing theory,Chuck says that the the downswing needs to be initiated by the action of "pushing down on the left heel". This has numerous advantages, one of which is that the arms, which are passive and not active in the rotary swing, will automatically drop into an "on plane" position, thereby maintaining the lag you constructed during the backswing, and not losing it by "casting" with the arms/upper body. My post was directed at GenWhite, whose very advanced swing was posted on youtube, and was related to his specific question about his left arm position while trying rotary "hitting" vs rotary "swing". 

Good point tater, I've been working the 9-3 drill and when I do that it seems very easy to push weight through my ankles on both sides and I'm real happy with the shift and club angles that produces on camera. The thing is though, when I start to open up the swing, I seem to struggle with the same feel. Guess its that 'urge' to hit at the ball.

My wife is a teacher, and I have a lot of experience teaching flying. Modern educational theory says that for the genius few among us (like Chuck teaching himself the hitter after mastering the rotary swing), learning a new habit requires 150 correct repetitions spread out over a "certain" time period. For the rest of us, 200 or more. Think of a child learning a new language. They can learn a language without an accent because, developementally, they mainly concern themselves with pronunciation and vocabulary building of a simple nature, rather than troubling themselves with too much meaning. And even though they have tons of neurons available for the task and are suited for it in a way that adults, who have moved on to sex and beer, usually cannot duplicate, it still takes them 3-4 years. Anthony Kim was on the range with Tiger narrating, demonstrating for an audience a lot of the various shots that AK had pulled off over the course of the year prior to starring in the Ryder Cup. Tiger said, the noted student of the swing, asked Kim to "..do that high 5 iron fade you hit at the British" and AK bliged. Then "..hit that 20 yard low draw that you hit at the Ryder cup around the tree on 14.." and so forth. Finally Tiger asks AK "..so what did you do to make that high 5 anyway?" and AK just stares at him and finally says words to the effect "..well I don't know exactly I just think high fade and it sort of happens". But later on, when AK lost his swing a bit, he really didn't know what to do to fix it because he didn't understand it that way in the first place. He's back now though. Anyway. I had a great practice session today just thinking about something that I read in one of these posts. so keep hammerin.