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Originally posted by Swing_King Swing_King wrote:

Jon, looking at your yardages and hearing you wax lyrical about your 3 and 5 woods (are these Maltby's) why not go really radical and dump the driver for a period in favour of the 60*?
 
I thought about that suggestion, too - seeing as how the 2 strong 3 wood is giving similar distance (and probably equal off the deck), perhaps the driver isn't necessary.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2007 at 12:08pm
Jepp, on my course I have really only 2 holes I need the driver and they are normally unreachable par 4 for me (440 yards slightly uphill, one with water from 210-230 and one with overlapping bunkers at 200-240)
i have looked for a small-headed driver of maybe 10-12 in loft that I can maybe hit from the deck as well.  Then I could leave out the 3w or as you say, just use it and not the driver.
 
i have never problems with hitting solid with the 3w, why would I really need a big driver ?
And if you are a great driver, 3w is often not necessary as the 2nd shot.
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Sounds like a good reason to try a few rounds sans driver to me!
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The only reson is that the driver is longer from tee :-)
 
Interesting.  When we normal golfers have more than average length, it should be a lot of courses we really can play without driver.  I good strategic though Ben.  I will try to remember that.
 
In fact my best driver training is to use the 3w for a while...gets smoother and longer then...
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Originally posted by jonag jonag wrote:

The only reson is that the driver is longer from tee :-)
 
Interesting.  When we normal golfers have more than average length, it should be a lot of courses we really can play without driver.  I good strategic though Ben.  I will try to remember that.
 
In fact my best driver training is to use the 3w for a while...gets smoother and longer then...
 
My home course is a 9 holer that's a little over 6000 yards.  I hit driver on 1/10 and 7/16.  No other holes require a driver to get to/inside 150 yards. 
 
It's actually a bit of a disadvantage, as when I go to play longer courses to get to the 150 neighbourhood I've gotta pull driver - a stick I just don't hit often.
 
 
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Speaking of wedges, I've had pretty good success with wedge shots lately by following one simple rule. 

Never take a full swing on any wedge shot.
 

I've been dialing every wedge shot back to something less than full value distance.  For example, my full 56* distance is about 85 yards.  If I have an 85 yard wedge shot, I hit the 52* at about 70%.  If I have a 100 yard shot (full distance for a 52*), I'll hit a 48* pitching wedge at 70%, and so forth.   By dialing back, I have better distance and directional control, and the ball fllies lower, takes one bounce forward and checks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2007 at 3:29am
Good tip One
 
I have problems shaving off more than 10 yards on a club.  I did one evening try the 51 (is 105-110) on 85 yards.  It is like you say, lower and bites.
 
I have briefly tried to think percentage rather than taking 10 yards off.  10 yards off is sort of impossible to grasp for the feel.  80% is something the feel can grasp, is my theory.  I personally do not think clock positions is the best using a rotary swing.  I cannot focus on stopping my backwing at a position, I need to focus on speed and power control.
Distance control is a strength in my game.  I never hit 20 yards too long..  I think that is a result of good planning.  I find the distance, and conclude on the club.  A hard PW or a soft GW.  A hard or soft adds or takes those 5 yards off automatically.  But 10% and more, I need to find another way, mybe total percentage...
 
By the way, why not play with a lower loftet SW (SW/GW) and then have a low bounced SW or strong LW as the last club ?
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report from trying a 60 wedge this weekend.  It for sure will give more birdie chances given I can get close enough to the green.  I guess my yardage was 70-75 with it, but I really liked it for:
40 yards pitch.  60 yards from thick rough.  Around the green with little green to work with.  The best was getting close more often from 40-70 yards.  It will most definately pay off on my home course.  I have 7 holes such distances could be needed and in addition difficult pin placements and missed greens...
 
I have programmed the distance feel around the green with the 56, so all my shots where too short... but that is a matter of training...
 
I also picked out my 10,5 driver again and liked the trajectory.  WIth the 9 I have to alter my swing too much to get it high enough.  with the 10,5 I can just hit it like a 3w and get good distance.  It might be 10-20 yards shorter than the 9 on the best drives, but the consistency is better.  I can also tee it a little lower and get penetration and good hang in the air.
 
Now I have to find out the bounce options.  Have got 8 on the 56, guess I do not need more than 6 on the 60.  Normally do not need it in the sand.  I think a gap is more important to be able to use in the sand as well than 60
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I must say, those half wedges are beautiful.  I have tried to hit those 70% PW shots, puting the ball a little back in the stance and chop clean down on them.  They go low, bounce 1-2 times and sticks to the green.  It seems I get even more spin on them and easier hit them clean than on full shots.
 
I guess I have to start using that half swing to get more distances into my bag...
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I happen to agree with Peltz philosphy--- that having control over the short yardage shots with 4 wedges of approx. 4 degrees of gap is the way to score.     Having the wider yardage gaps at the long end ie 5 iron and up
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